DiscoveryBeat: Playfish exec says social gaming is still waiting for its Super Mario Bros.

super-mario-brosIntellectual property is one of the next big opportunities in social gaming, according to Sebastien de Hellaux, co-founder and president of Playfish. Specifically, the industry still lacks a franchise like Super Marios Bros., something that could become a “poster child” for the new medium.

De Hellaux was speaking on a panel at VentureBeat’s DiscoveryBeat 2009 event in San Francisco today, where VentureBeat alum Eric Eldon pressed him on what he meant, particularly in the context of Playfish’s recently-announced acquisition by Electronic Arts. Did he mean Playfish should create a franchise like Super Mario, or that it should move EA franchises onto social platforms like Facebook? Both, De Hellaux answered.

“IP can be both created or translated,” he said.

The discussion about the value of intellectual property continued in the next panel, when Alex St. John, the new president and chief technology officer of social networking site hi5, took a very different view. Focusing specifically on whether well-known properties make for more successful games, St. John said that was true on old gaming platforms, but no longer makes sense for social games. It’s about social interaction and addictiveness, he said, not name recognition.

“IP in gaming is important when you’re in the business of selling a box,” St. John said.

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  • I love super mario bros.
  • social gaming.. i like this
  • Super Mario Bross still exist untill now... hehe
  • interested discuss i think
  • nice to be join your discuss so thanks
  • good article...thanks a lot for the information!
  • Roxy
    @Adam: Farmville was a knock off of Farmtown with better virals tied into the gameplay. Farmville just set the tone for the ability for social games to grow, but by no means is it the last large title we will see, nor can it be considered to be the face of social gaming. Likewise it does not have the same branding power that Super Mario Bros does. Give it a year or two and watch other titles surface as the Facebook platform changes.
  • good article...thanks a lot for the information!
  • good article...thanks a lot for the information!
  • jmena
    @Adam - totally disagree. Social media gaming, while pervasive, is not nearly as influential. There are no franchise titles. Case in point i'm a grad student in new media, working in the tech sector - I've never heard of Farmville, I don't care how big it is. It's not because I'm behind the times - its because I don't game on Facebook. But you can bet that in the 1980s, after 3 years, EVERYBODY knew what Super Mario Bros. was, regardless of their status as gamers.
  • “IP in gaming is important when you’re in the business of selling a box,”

    Sorry Alex - but you're dead wrong. IP is important for all entertainment products, regardless of delivery platform!

    - Jon
  • adamgutterman
    How is Farmville *not* the Super Mario Bros. of social gaming? ~$300M run rate, so a $1B run a little over three years - did Super Mario Bros. run that in its first 3 years of existence (or mid-80s equivalent $)? Perhaps, but they're not far off. And because of Farmville's reach, even if you don't play it, if you're on FB at all, you've seen the Farmville feed posts. It's in the collective consciousness of the world in the same way Mario was (early on at least). Of course, Mario was franchised and iterated, many times awesomely. It remains to be seen if Farmville has that franchise power. One could argue that at least for now, Fishville, etc. are the franchises, at least the early few. But at least for now, the game changer, the one everyone thinks of when they think of social gaming, it's Farmville, hands down. Not surprising that a Playfish guy won't recognize the Zynga elephant in the room.
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